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Michael from Maui
Hour 32

60 minutes
Tuesday ~ 4 March 2008

We are at a turning point
we need to make the right choice
to not be interfaced with the artificial system.

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Curtis : We'd like to welcome you back again to helloEarth.info with Michael in Maui... and this is hour 32 and this is the 4th of March... and hello: Michael.

Michael : Hello

Curtis : Hello... well... welcome back... we're... we're here again... and I have a question left over from last week from Nicola from Massachusetts... he says... On the amazing dream podcast from last week... will the aliens continue to monitor Earth... and will they move the mothership closer. And then he also said... Did the thought adjuster assist in the dream?

Michael : Okay... yeah. Thanks for the question Nicola...

Curtis : yeah 0:52

Michael : ... and ah... that's a good starting point for this podcast. When you think about it... the ah... the mothership... or New Jerusalem which turns out to be ah... a... a biblical name actually. And it's only mentioned in the ah... in the book of Revelations. It's only mentioned in the revelatory... um... almost dream type experience that John had and he ah... was able to see and be sent... ah... to Earth... or actually... ah... you might say... ah... docking with Earth... with planet Earth. Probably the greatest UFO... um... ancient account ever... ah... but it was... ah... one that was in a dream... so. As far as coming... ah... closer to Earth... there really isn't any need for that. So it would probably not... ah... need to come any closer to Earth. Presently the New Jerusalem is a way station you might say a outpost New Jerusalem. A city... um... air... space space (? ?). Cause the number of ships that I saw over there were just... ah... it was... it just went on and on and on. And looked on... at this place where they park them. And it included that big... ah... wing craft... which that those strange holes under its wings. And ah... by the way... I... ah... I was looking for information and ah... and ah... they also will... they also will drop things through them so they will transport things out of those holes through... you might say... they might be... supplying... um... will be... trying to do that... but they will also be doing it because they will have to do it (? ?)... coming up shortly. Um... a... which a... really involves that... these ships... ah... especially the big ones. Um... there... there will be a lot of people that will not be lifted... ah... most of the people will not be lifted. Those that are lifted... will be ah... those that have ah... been preselected. The preselected group... um... are made up of... people who... not by their choice... choose to go. This... they can... they can stay down here... on planet Earth and... and um... say I want to go... I want to go... I want to go. But unless you're chosen... um... it won't happen. It is not by... our choice. We don't dictate anything to them. Um and um... my wife conversation with ah... Tan... ah... was interesting. He said ah... remember... I've chosen you. You have nothing to do with that choice... I chose you. And also because of that... he'll take full responsibility for that choice. And at that point... when you say if there's... is this... um... dis... ah... It's a two way disclosure actually we got have... the governments of this world are going to have to come forward at that (? ?) particular time... when all of this stuff really goes on... and as the awareness of ah... ah... civilizations other than our world are... very evident... you can not deny it anymore. There's going to be... um... no lack of interest in our planet. Really in fact much more. Um... the hands off experience would have ended... the ah... and some of that illegal... tinkering that some people have experienced going on... ah... will be put to an end. Um... no more of that is going to be going on. Tinkering with us as human beings... our... our physical selves... and um... things like that... you know... but some people have... ah... ah... theorized as ah... as one of their agendas is to created a hybrid race with them. Um... this is the... not as important to them as... um... trying to... um... ah... find out why... ah... we are unable to... ah... carry the thought adjuster. The thought adjuster is unique some... to... um... certain mortal races. And ah... not necessarily... ah... all... um... mortal or extra mortal... super mortal beings... have that... privilege... of housing... the ah... housing and becoming... ah... acquainted. And then forging a everlasting relationship with the thought adjuster. The concept of forging... ah... the everlasting relationship has to do with... ah... the uplift of the soul. Actually to a much higher level... the soul. You might say that... ah... the thought adjuster does... have... is never destroyed. Ah... but ah... the... ah... human form... our form... if not brought into... proper... development... will not end up... ah... with an immortal soul. Will end up with something less than that... and that's why our life on... here needs to be well acquainted with ah... um... the purpose of our... our... our... our short... ah... stay in... in... in mortal form. And that is to forge... this um... this ah... higher level soul. A soul that is... um... headed toward... ah... final fusion with the adjuster. Essentially becoming more... um... more divine. We right now... participated... many of the divine... ah... qualities... divine... yeah... things... ya... that are being probed and looked into as well as the moral aspects of our biologic chemistry and things like that... they won't... laughs... they don't understand why... and it is a mystery to... ah... ah... some of these... ah... um... beings... um... because they made a divergent... ah... choice. And this divergent choice is one that we are on the cusp of right now. We are standing on the edge of making a very very serious choice in our... our destiny. And one... which... ah... is... is not looked upon... if we make one... this... the wrong way... ah... not looked upon well. It would be better that we do not progress further as a race if we make that choice. It is a choice that... ah... desires our control over our... ourselves... as... ah... a physical beings. With total disregard to the thought adjuster's... ah... position in our life... in our being. Because the thought adjuster is not... a physical part of us. Neither is he a spiritual part of us... he is the divine part of us. The fractal element which is God. And is able to... for some reason because of our design... um... indwell us... and work with us. And because of that... we forge a relationship. Forge a... ah... ah... a very... new and everlasting material... who we become. That will never parish... that will continue on... hand-in-hand you might say. But... ah... if we make a choice to instead... not to be in just a indwell... but to be... technologically... indwell. So much in science presently concerning our ability to interface to our own machines. Um... computers... or even Nano Box you might say... is concept... only right now... but it could proceed even further. Ah... they're is a whole bunch of problems with the concept of... ah... sub-dermal...ah... ID chips in animals... is causing a lot of problems with some of these animals. Cancers and stuff like that... but they want a... have that almost request one day... for us to do business. Which would be making the wrong choice. Um... that means that we will displace our free will... with the will of the machine. Does that make any sense to you.

Curtis : oh... It sure does. 10:56

Michael : Yeah... well that is the choice that is... is really something they really want to guide us away from... or... um... more like stop us from making that terrible choice.

Curtis : yes

Michael : And um it is something that...ah... was taught to us... by Tan... the great teacher. It's not because you have to... you instead... you have chosen to do that... to do whatever you do. And to take that ability away from us... is exactly what... chuckles... they do not want to see.

Curtis : uh hum

Michael : That ability to choose... to have free creative ideas... and to move into the higher level of becoming more... um... you might say... having more of a characteristic of Deity... which is creativity... beyond... ah... a level... ah... whether it be... artistic or whether it be... technological... whether it be it's in... in literature... or any of the higher arts... ah or sciences um are considered more of the higher natures of ourselves... of who we are. And then we... through that contact more and more of the adjuster... the thought adjuster. The thought adjuster is very much a part... of ah... reality... ah... whether we know it or not... um... some of the scientists... ah... are very tuned to... ideas that pop in their head... through the adjuster. Through this ah... marvelous thing they says... is... is the brain. But they don't even know that... what's... what's so special about the brain. You know... I mean... is there something that they can map in there that... will tell them the function of the adjuster? Um... it does say... the wonderful interface... there is activity that... that suddenly appears... but they don't know why. laughs... In certain... ah...ah... physic individuals and certain telepathic individuals and certain very creative individuals. But... ah... it has a lot to do with our interface which is the fabric of... of the Universe... ah... reality. The... ah... That which is and always was. The I am you might say.

Curtis : So... 13:29

Michael : And that is because...

Curtis : So we... so we are connected... so you said ah... ah... it's the... it's the interface with the thought adjuster?

Michael : Yeah. With not only the thought adjuster who gives... the thought adjuster gives an interface... to all of... ah... ah... that is. All that we can perceive... and even beyond that... um...

Curtis : So you're saying these chips would interfere with our creative thinking or our creative ability with the thought adjuster?

Michael : It would eventually cause some kind of ah... disassociation so severe... that the human race... would be... everything that is not human... loosing... ah... contact you might say. The more important contact. Contact with the other... super mortal and extra mortal beings... which are Morontial you might say... Morontial beings... is not... not it. You know... the higher level or the higher level... are also a day... (? ?) moves toward. But there is an interfering point which stops them from proceeding beyond. Our race... we're starting... their... their coming down to the origin... and ah... maybe trying to... ah... find our secret. Or find what is... in there because... within our creation. We're not only seeded or all life is not always seeded. You might say... you know... they came as life carriers. If you've studied... life carrier stories... in the book of... Earth... The Urantia Book... ah... you find out that they're... um... they really didn't... transport... carry... pack... pick-up or pack life to different worlds. But our... but our adjuster... ca... our... in many terms of a... guardian type adjusters... or directing life toward our level... of being... of... self conscious... ah... God seeking... truth seeking individuals. Um... with the ability to choose. So...

Curtis : I see. 16:04

Michael : So... how... how it's done is through the very fabric... of ah... of ah... the Universe itself. And because of that... ah... the formulations will be very similar thought out the Universe.

Curtis : I'm sorry... what's going to be similar?

Michael : The formulations of life... ah... will be very similar... in terms of... ah... ah... its development... and the process by which it starts... and moves on. So the creative formula is there... and it is... floated upon the fabric of the Universe. And as... a result you might say... because it is being floated on the fabric of the Universe... both time and space does not effect it... and it is universally present. Throughout... according to when certain aspects of a planet's development or... um... even... ah...um... other types of celestial bodies development come to a point of... ah... proper... ah... timing that life begins to appear. All the way destined toward us. So we are almost at a pinnacle of... ah... life progress and at a jumping off point you might say between the nature or animal toward the divine and eternal. This transitional position which we are at right now... is being watched with great intent... great anxiousness especially by the guardian of our destiny. Their who are... who are... um... actually... ah... in the New Jerusalem. And ah... watching over us you might say. So that will not... that will not... ah... end.

Curtis : The... the ah... 18:26

Michael : The interest in us...

Curtis : The interest in...

Michael : ... after contact.

Curtis : ...in Earth... yes.

Michael : Yes... will not end because... um... to... to bring us through. You see... 2012 and the concept of 2012 is a... a more of a... a... ah... bench mark or hallmark of timing... of a time event... where we'll start to... make a lot of progress in this... in terms of our... our civilization... um... together with... ah... the open knowledge of ah... of having... um... much more life out there than just ourselves... um... you know. And not thinking of ourselves too highly. Not thinking of ourselves as... unique and the only... ah... form of life that there is. But... ah... having... ah... a much... ah... bigger... ah... broader picture. But what I am bringing about is even... ah... even bigger than that. Because it has to do with the transition also from moving from mortal to immortal... mortal to an eternal beings... so that is forced in life right now. And... ah... life hardships are never to be... ah... um... tried... short circuited you might say... um... removed... completely... ah... cause those are the developmental parts that create our ah... our ah... our eternal destiny you might say in terms of what we are as individuals and then what we are collectively as ... ah... as a generation of... ah... humanoids you might say on Earth.

Curtis : A collection of humanoids on Earth. 20:32

Michael : Yes... yes... a generation of humanoids on Earth. So... um... there is some... you know... suspicion that we are not the first generation of humanoids. There might have been one that... laughs... didn't do so well. And ah... was kind of wiped out. And ah... it was... ah... progressing in the wrong... totally wrong direction. So it was stopped. And... ah... apparently we're... headed more in the right direction than the wrong direction but not necessarily in the perfect direction... but a least... moving toward it. And... ah... what... ah... we have very close to coming... we have the great privilege of living in this transitional story period... to watch the event unfold before us. Some of them are tragic... and we'll remember some of these tragic things. But also many of them... are just a matter of... ah... wonder. One of these is what you were just talking about Curtis before we... ah... started the... ah... the recording. Is that... ah... a ninety-three year old man... will buy his computer...

Curtis : yeah

Michael : ... one day soon.

Curtis : yes 22:10

Michael : That is an amazing step... but it is something that demonstrates the level of... and the... the ah... the actual... ah... you might say... adaptability of our race... even in a great age we can adapt to our technology. So... um... it wouldn't be very hard for us to adapt at all... to any of these high level alien technologies. Jump in one of these craft... by-the-way... the craft that they have... are not craft. You know the word craft... mean sort of like fabricated... like hammer and chisel and...

Curtis : yep

Michael : ... tools and punches...

Curtis : And rivets.

Michael : ... and rivets and presses and things like that... ya. Well... um... they just grow. Like I said earlier... it was... you know... I witness an area that was... ah... being created by... ah... their... their fabrication technology. And they said that... ah... they were using... ah... types of... ah... crystalline... ah... design to... ah... just simply lay upon layer upon layer... just create... um... this... ah... this craft... ah... you might say. Ah... which is really... ah... growth more than a craft. And much of what we do today... I mean in our silicon stuff... it's all grown... or etched... or... most... most of it grown now but... ah. That's... um... the level in which... you know... chuckles... a little... humanity will be given... opportunities for such wonderful abilities. Zooming around and things and... and maybe even you know... seeing a lot of this stuff that... is just... in our science fiction. It may very well happen within our lives... our life time. Just as we've... ah... developed it... ah... it may be poured out to us... directly or indirectly in our... in terms of our own inventiveness. Um... be able to recreate some of their technology.

Curtis : When you were saying about the craft... and ah... about us having rivets and all...

Michael : yeah 24:41

Curtis : Are you saying their crafts are alive and are created with vegetation?

Michael : laughs... yes... you might say I asked a similar question... and the answer was... no... ah... it's not life as life is. Which is... ah... given on a road map... we have (? ?) invented our genetics... we understand... our genetic map... we understand some of that... at least... we understand that each individual self... ah... has (? ?) limited itself... that particular map. But they said... the external... its own external basis. Which... ah... each individual crystal or particle is to find a position. And as that position is built upon millions and millions of times... we create... ah... a whole bunch of particles that are linked together... ah... crystalline form... and um... have a craft... we have ah... we have a structure. And um... a factory are... non existent. It's just... if you want them... you just put them together... they just grow them like. But it's not grown in... the way where each particle knows where its position is... in terms of... ah... itself. But each particle is given a position according to... its assignment based on... ah... the instructions that... ah... dictated its growth. And... and... as a result... ah... you have... ah... um... a new type of UFO... or... things like that... a new one. laughs.

Curtis : So this craft is grown?

Michael : yes

Curtis : Grown from? 26:31

Michael : I wish I knew. Um... it's grown from some kind of basement matter... ah... basically crystal in structure. And as the... we understand metallurgy and rocks and stuff. And... it's all... you know... it is all crystal structure... that... ah... is in our fabricated materials. You know... you can study them... as a... a... microscope level... and see that... there are certain things that are... the way things connect together. But they... they don't just... you know... you know... um. Ah... it's more like... ah... almost like concrete you might say... where... you have a form... and you pour it into that form...

Curtis : yes

Michael : ... and then it solidifies.

Curtis : uh hum

Michael : Ah... but they don't need the form. Because each little bit is assigned a position. And they... um... just sort of let it... rip... you know. And up... almost how you might say... ah... our... our two dimensional images... are placed on a TV screen.

Curtis : yes

Michael : Each one is assigned a position... a whatever... a...

Curtis : ... coordinates

Michael : ... coordinates yeah... or... and given certain attributes...

Curtis : ... uh hum... color

Michael : ... in terms of color or whatever... you know...

Curtis : ... shade

Michael : Yeah... and... ah... we have a two dimensional images... that are... but there's a three dimensional reel. And... ah... using similar... similar ideas... similar concept... but... somewhat holographic you might say... in terms of... ah... their placement. Except when... the holograph might be it in (? ?) constructions and I assume that... ah... instead of simply bearing out its three dimensional light... they... can bear out in three dimensional in fabric. And if have the fabric of (? ?). Well... anyway they... they allowed me to see that and... try to... imagine... not imagine. Not have... not have to imagine it in my mind. But to understand it... ah... from watching it happen which was that... yeah... seeming like layer upon layer of that... that like... squid like... color changes going through the... ah... the ah... the shell or the hull that they were making.

Curtis : uh hum

Michael : That is why there are no sharp edges on some of the craft that have been reported. Like... ninety degree angles or sharp angles... they just sort of just... continue on... so it goes on... turns this way... turns back... you know. They don't use sharp... they don't need... they don't use that... because they don't create that way. Not efficient. It's also very weak structurally.

Curtis : Explain more about the... when... you just mentioned that they allowed you to see it happen...

Michael : yeah

Curtis : ... how they put these layers together and...

Michael : right

Curtis : ... how did that come to be? 29:48

Michael : Um... okay... well that was when I was... I was sitting in the classroom. And asking questions... you know... about gravity questions about... ah... dimensions questions about... ah... energy. Um... this one was about...ah... ah... how... how... how did it mean... everything is crystalline in base. How could it be? My mind immediately pictured these... ah... gigantic chucks of quartz crystals. laughs

Curtis : yes... I did too.

Michael : You know... and I go... my goodness... you know. Crystals... chuckles... wow... you know. And then they went... and they... ah... said wait... it's right around the corner. So we left... ah... the... environment. And I says... lets look over here... so we went around. Ah... just a short stroll over... and they were fabricating what looked like... a... interior space. Cause I wasn't looking at it from the exterior... I was looking at it from the interior... and waves of colors are going out and creating this... ah... space. Which didn't look like it was... um... rectangular or square or anything it was smooth. It had a shape that was... ah... reminiscent of a sphere... a more flatten sphere you might say. But anyway... it... it... I could see it run through... the colors run through... and they said... they're building... they're building the ah... the ah... the craft right now or they're building the wall or whatever it was. It was... ah... described to me (? ?)... so... I... noticed that... it says... every time the... the layer would go out... the colors would... would... ah... push out from ah... almost like waves. That if you were to... ah... stand at a very calm... pond... and start rippling your hand in the water... and just pulsing waves through the pond... it was almost like that. Except a lot more active in terms of the way the propit... it propagated its... the wave energy wave energy out there. And it was basically just building... ah... layer upon layer of tiny crystals. Crystalline types... whatever type they dictate to use though. Everything has a crystalline structure... a molecular structure. But... ah... you can based out a molecular structure to (? ?) crystal... a crystalline structure. And ah... you know... different bond... and whatever bond they want... they would have it ordered to... spent (? ?) and create that.

Curtis : So you're saying... their crafts are... actually crystal based?

Michael : Yes... absolutely... yes. 32:54

Curtis : Definitely... so the whole thing is like crystal based?

Michael : Crystal base... right. So it has properties... ah... that are... it could be very... just like any material... ah... like a metal... but then it will demonstrate other types of properties... um... that... ah... would not necessarily be like a metal. And... ah... and also act in ways that... ah... depending on how... ah... they energized it. It would act in different ways... it could radiate... um... light... um... as a... as a ah... a side effect... to what they are probably doing. um... And how they... ah... manipulate... ah... themselves through... space... using the entire hull. There is a concept of... ah... bending space... and that's used. But there are other concepts... that they use at low speed that... ah... has nothing to do with that. um... And has... a lot to do with the way in which they... ah... align the ship... ah... within the fabric of... our... our... you know... ... ... subatomic or even... ah... even ah... quantum level of a... base which we... ah... dwell in right now.

Curtis : I remember when I was a kid... I built this... ah... crystal radio.

Michael : right

Curtis : Did you ever build crystal radio?

Michael : Oh yeah... when I was 5 years old... I worked on a project with my dad. And one of my first radio projects was... ah... crystal radios... that was 5... 4... 4 years... almost 5 years old. I remember that distinctly... because... laughs... I was trying to make a... it receive a... a... a station better so... I... ah... strung a wire all over the yard and I... later... ran into my wiring. It was like... you know... those... ah... shows... where you... they pull the wire across somebodies... laughs... gets them on the neck and fall backwards... that's when I... when I ran into my wire... laughs. And fell backwards... I had a nasty cut... actually I ran into it at... laughs... and fell into like... a bush... which cut my lip wide open... laughs

Curtis : Oh gosh 35:35

Michael : That's pretty traumatic but... I blame myself for it... running long wires around. Crystal radio... huh. laughs

Curtis : So a crystal radio... how is the crystal radio similar to this crystal craft?

Michael : Well a crystal... the crystal is very... interesting and has properties of a semi... of a conductor... um... and some sense... and in insulator in some sense. And that crystal that quartz crystal... would... ah... conduct electricity only one polarity or one direction. And...ah... what happens with radio waves... or radio... ah... radio bunches of energy... is that they are propagating outward and they relief and they go inward and they go outward and inward... but like breathing. But you can not... never hear it... ah... because... it is in AC... and it cancels... ah... it basically... ah... um... cancels itself out... acoustically. Ah... so... in order to get it to... become... um... something that could be heard acoustically. And then... you know... placed onto the earphones which is a magnetic thing. You strip off one half of it... so you put it through the crystal. The RF... the radio signal comes through. And of course the strongest signal... ah... would be the one that would be supposedly detected... and the crystal is called a detector. Because it was able to... ah... strip off half of the... ah... signal. And then it becomes a vibrating DC signal of varying amplitude. And then you push that into the earphone... and that sort of resinates it very much like how your... earphone resinates... ah... with a... ah... a magnetic... ah... electromagnetic... like input diaphragm. Pushes... ah... the ah... acoustic pressure into your.... into your (? ?). That's basically... what... what was happening with a simple crystal... using one of the properties of the quartz crystal. Which was semi-conductive properties... which of course now... drives just about all of our electronic semi-conductive... (? ?).

Curtis : Stay close to that microphone. 37:59

Michael : yeah

Curtis : yeah... So... they... ah... is the crystal radio similar or a foundation for this craft?

Michael : ah... No... it is not that way...

Curtis : I see

Michael : ... you might look at it in terms of... the fixed crystalline structure... um... of a... of um... metal. Lets say... um... what I am very familiar with is... ah... steel. You've got...a... different... you know... when you... when you... um... look at steel under a microscope. You can see... um... how the... a molecules... molecules... of course the crystals align. Depending upon how it was cooled off or... where it was in a particular moment in time... ah... when it was more or less... moveable. So... um... you know a long time ago... the concept of the soul was taught to the ancient Samurai. And their soul was their sword... um because the...ah... the sword... and then we came part... into (? ?) the soul of the Samurai was their sword. So this mystery has been with it... but it was ah... is a perverted teaching of real truth which has to do with... how our... our physical selves... spiritual selves and the thought adjuster get together... and under the crucible of life... keep up... and actually make me feel under energy and forging process. And then at a moment in time... it is put into a... a point where it just... slams... every... all the movement still... and it captures... a moment in time. And it still crystallizes to... for... different... ah... metal properties. So the way you do that... is a tremendous art in itself. But... um... it is ah... it is in concept with what they are doing cause... they're... they're laying out crystalline structure but not with... thermodynamics... not with temperature... using high temperature. Instead they're using it... ah... from the... the very basically... placing each... bit... together. um... In a sense... somewhat how... tremendous heat does and yet molten metal or near molten metal or red hot metal you can forge it and fashion it... at a point you can quench it and stop it form moving it all down. That moment in time... it becomes solid and structurally very strong. So in a sense... instead of heat... they have control of the actual... particle crystals... before they... stop them... and they becomes totally solid.

Curtis : So in other words... they're sort of lining up all of those crystals or...

Michael : yeah

Curtis : ... the fabric of the wires... that somewhat make up the crystals?

Michael : Yeah... yeah... yeah. Like how we do our... our... our growth in some of our... silicon stuff... is a... of course we ah... have to ah... grow it real pure silicon... cut it all up. Out of that... we kind of like... etch through... the circuitry and stuff.

Curtis : uh huh 41:48

Michael : And then we get our... (? ?) of technology we have right now. Moving from the basic crystal to... you know... the space that... that once... was good enough to detect a radio signal that amount of crystal was... today... you know... putting a (? ?) on there... application specific semi conductor... or ah... application... asick (? ?)... application specific...

Curtis : Putting a what?

Michael : ASIC... it's called an ASIC... that's the ah...

Curtis : ASIC

Michael : yeah... Application Specific... ah... um... integrated Circuit... um...

Curtis : That's an acronym?

Michael : It's an acronym... that drives our technology today. Everything runs... about... everything runs (? ?) the basics now. Our internet is built upon... the fact that everything... is super fast because we're able to... create... ah... tiny tiny... ah... crystalline structures... that are... that actually make possible... our internet. And... ah... it's has gone beyond the integrated circuits... to very specific... ah... integrated circuits... application specific...

Curtis : So their craft...

Michael : ... some of their... general off-the-shelf stuff... but... not only... you know... laughs... You can stick a whole... ah... a whole... a whole bunch of circuits... that you are talking on... or passing data through... all on a little tiny... pin head.

Curtis : So their... their craft that they are making out of crystal... is... like one entire integrated circuit... all communicating with itself.

Michael : Yes... that is exactly true. But it is not necessarily... you see... one of the things that... ah... that they're not afraid of is... if you don't know how to turn something on... if I give a monkey... ah... a radio lets say. And say... tune into... um... the morning show... you know... and we'll teach you how to get the next... the next crop of bananas or something.

Curtis : yes: 44:06

Michael : um... If you can't turn the thing on... you may never... get any of the instructions from his trainer. So... and if the trainer knows that he gave him... a unit that didn't have any batteries in it... so it will never turn on.

Curtis : laughs

Michael : um... That monkey could do whatever he wanted with it. So there is a lot of technology that... we muck around with... we could muck with their technology. And we could find out it's layered... and we have substructures within it... that are interesting... and mysterious. But without the magic formula or... to power it up... ah... we won't... ah... discover much.

Curtis : In other words... we really need instructions how to use their craft.

Michael : Yeah... but... really... when it comes down to using their craft... actually when it is working... it's very intuitive... it's easy to do... if you... you know... given some basic understanding. But... to actually make one is... whew... laughs... is hard.

Curtis : oh yeah

Michael : You... you have to build upon... building upon... building upon a lot of things. Sort of like... going back when I was 5 years old and says... do you know that you are tinkering with the future? And this little piece of crystal that you are detecting that radio signal on... has... what? laughs. I wouldn't... you know... ah... think... or begin to try to... but you know... understand it but it...

Curtis : It's all right there.

Michael : yeah... We're... at... we're could be holding on to a lot of it... but not understanding... how... how tiny it could... you know... how smart you an make that little... piece of... that little crystal... how intelligent you can... created it. And that's the cusp that we're on right now. Is... we are going to interface to our technology to a point where we disassociate self... with the thought adjuster. And... ah... remove ourselves from the stream of deity. Then... essentially we cut ourselves from the river of life... you might say. The... the ancient biblical... ah... teaching... the river of life that... um... that gives us... ah... everlasting life... ah... that... that is something that they... surely do not want us to produce (? ?)... that choice... they don't want us to make. But they do want us to... continue with... being inventive and creative and moving and... and keeping technology subservient to us... but not us to becoming servants... servants to it. In... in a way that can come... first from... from one of the most dangerous places. Of courses... which... the forces that are in the world want us to keep us all line... which is... ah... the financial forces. You know. If a person is financially... totally free... um... it's very hard to control that person. yeah

Curtis : right 47:13

Michael : But you control that person in finance... you can almost control that person. Now... if you take it to the next terrible level. And this is were the... biblical term... the mark of the... the ah... the beast comes from. Not only the mark of the... ah... animal beast... the base nature of man... which is another mark of the beast... but the mark of the... beast which is a system that they hoped to... ah... or... ah... create... which is... ah... which is the influence of... ah... what kind of makes our civilization go around. The concept of all the horses running free... um... is a... ah... is a picture of ah... the real hope that we'll... we'll come through to... be come more or less free from that type of a system. Which will try to lead us down the road... of making the wrong choice.

Curtis : And the wrong choice would be to accept this chip... this... ah...

Michael : The all controlling chip... yeah... the all controlling... ah... choice which says... we'll bow our knees to the... ah... to the financial... where-with-all of the world... (? ?)... and not to the fabric of... ah... the flow of all true life. yeah

Curtis : Well they are putting these chips in... ah... animals like at the shelters.

Michael : Yeah... and... it was sort of the great thing to happen for the animal... except after a while they started developing some problems.

Curtis : (speechless)

Michael : So we are right... right on that... and there are things that could happen that would try to create that. And that choice... of... ah... interfacing with the... ah... the ah... the machine you might say. Is our choice... you know... we... we make that choice... on a... on a individual bases.

Curtis : uh huh 49:24

Michael : If we just understand that if we have to alienate ourselves from our machines... in order to preserve the... the relationship we have with our thought adjuster and (? ?)... to the creator of all... the universal creator. Then everything else will be given to us... whatever... whatever we need. um... It's an amazing thing... but it will happen. But... if we make the wrong choice... which is to chose... instead of that... and we choose... some concept of interfacing with a machine... ah... to preserve our physical life which only has a limit of time on it. Then... that's the wrong choice. And the whole... the whole fabric of society will be destroyed and the whole progress of all of this... millions of years of developing Earth... life on Earth to this level... as we as the top... ah... ah... life form... would be... pretty much wasted. And that's exactly what the guardians of our destiny... do not want to see... any of that... happening... we're... we're not called to that... that level of destiny. We're going to a much much higher... level of destiny. Which is an eternal world. But also... at this beginning point... the mortal world will be much clearer... much... ah... much more wonderful actually. Civilization will progress to a much higher level and with people who all understand... um... themselves as... ah... moving from a base... um... material natural level... to a more... ah... Devine... divinely... ah... molded level. So this... this is... ah... what's happening. But their technology is just supremely beautiful. um... They create everything... that is... ah... I'm talking about just... ah... you know... a bunch of aliens. laughs. And they're... they're... ah... who are a... extra mortal... they're physical beings... although... you know... some of them I'm sure... are really beings of light. But... and others... you know... but those that I saw there... and there were... we are... going to start... ah... to interface with... when the New Jerusalem does finally... dock with Earth. It... it... it will be... a tremendous... ah... time.

Curtis : A tremendous time... yeah... it certainly will be. 52:12

Michael : But... yeah. It's not... not near in our future... but what is near is this... turning point which we've got to make the right choice. And if... ah... we can... ah... make that choice... ah... on an individual level... to choose... not to be interfaced with a... a artificial system. But really... um... retain... um... our... our divinely... divinely appointed... ah... destiny. Which is to become divinely ourselves in nature. That then... we really will... not see... ah... the horrors... that... some people will talk about. Which is actually the ah... the actually cleansing part. In getting rid of... ah... the ah... the wrong direction. In the um... ah... it is up... it's not an action that didn't play out in other civilizations. um... The Coming of Tan talks about it... a civilization that... made a mistake... but they created beings... not themselves... they created other beings. And ah... who were techno-botoc... somewhat like that. Ended up... becoming... very terrible.

Curtis : uh huh

Michael : Anyway... um... yeah... and that's where... we're at. A similar type of a... um... a similar type of... point of time... a... ah...

Curtis : So... you say we are at a turning point in the near future...

Michael : Right now... we are.

Curtis : ... and not to interface with our... ah... well you said chip... but what do you mean by the chip being?

Michael : It is a... ah... is a choice toward the artificial... um... rather than the Devine. And they're... they're coming to... inform us... that... ah... we're not alone... in this decision. They won't make it for us... neither will they force us to make it. They'll just let us know that... ah... (which is nice)... you know... you're... you're being... you're being... laughs... you're being watched... you know... a lot more than you think you are.

Curtis : We're being watched by them? 54:48

Michael : Yes... because this decision is very important. For the most part we've always tried to... keep technology... sub-servant to us... but... ah... sometimes... ah... there is a level... that choice can become... very destructive and totally wrong. And that would be to... come a point of our... our... um... you might say... our evolution... to evolve into a... a machine type being... semi-machine being. And it all starts off with a little chip.

Curtis : huh

Michael : Tiny controlling devise.

Curtis : huh

Michael : And it moves on from there. As far as having spare parts in our bodies... and things like that... by getting an artificial heart or something like that. It's not... it's a mechanical pump actually. But it's not... ah... um... that that is the terrible point... it's much larger point. Ultimately though... ah... the forging of our soul is much more important... and the short term that... the short time that each individual has... to forge your soul. To... to... that fluid time in which your... your abilities are not solidified and finally... ah... coming to a point where... um... they actually get become (? ?) and solidified... ah... um... forever. um... It... it really should take place now... I mean... you want a... you want to have that now. You don't want to make every step to developing... a truly wonderful (? ?) (? ?)

Curtis : wow... We sure do. ( don't think I heard Michael )
So we want to stay away from the... ah... chips because it will control us.

Michael : Of the big picture is that... and it will... it will end up swinging the whole design... ah... of the Devine plan actually... the eternal plan. It will... just... just... be the wrong thing to do. yeah

Curtis : huh. The wrong thing to do. 57:19

Michael : Yeah. um... Eventually... it would... end up cutting us off from the thought adjuster... cutting... which cuts us off... to the fabric of... of... of God... the Universe actually. So this is... ah... this is... ah... a bit of the answer... to... yeah... the questions. laughs

Curtis : It sure is. This cutting us off... from the Universe and God...

Michael : yes

Curtis : ... do you think our government is privy to... what's going on and they want to cut us off?

Michael : Well... governments come and go.

Curtis : We have two minutes left.

Michael : yeah... So this is... ah... the real design really... that... um... is not... from our government... but of... the one that ah... is ah... rebellion... and is coming to an end. ah... Which is... Lucifer Rebellion... with the desire to... to create that stop gap... that point end... which it... all ends. No more interface with ah... the fabric of the Universe... the father of... lights.

Curtis : huh

Michael : So that is the motive. And if... people choose that... ah... it's going to look... really like the smart thing to do. But it is the wrong thing to do.

Curtis : Well this... this hour has been... amazing...

Michael : laughs... yeah... yeah

Curtis : ... amazing.

Michael : You always say that at the end.

Curtis : I always say... laughs... well... I'm here making notes... and ah... it's just like... my gosh.

Michael : Yeah 59:23

Curtis : So we're at a turning point... and we need to do the right thing and...

Michael : But it starts at an individual basis because no bodies going to... we have free choice and we need to maintain that. ah... In... in spite of the... we have to realize that our... our life is short... it's going to end. But we have to make a choice that goes far beyond our life.

Curtis : Yep... we need to maintain that. Well... we will. Thank you very much. We'll... talk with you again next week. And... ah... the week of the 16th you're... going to be in Japan I believe.

Michael : yeah... yeah

Curtis : So we'll talk with you again on the eleventh.

Michael : yeah... I think so.

Curtis : Great. Thanks... Michael... Aloha

Michael : Aloha

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