Michael : 0:43 Hello Curtis. How is everything?

Curtis : 0:45 Oh everthing's good. Be nice if the sun came out but maybe that'll happen tomorrow.

Michael : 0:51 Oh yeah. There's some strange weather too. Yeah. California's real cold. Yeah.

Curtis : 0:57 Ah Las Vegas is way below freezing. And in Celsius it's 17 below. Which is like whoa. I didn't know Las Vegas got that cold.

Michael : 1:13 And Europe is got interesting springtime weather.

Curtis : 1:19 Oh really? I didn't notice.

Michael : 1:20 Yeah and that goes to show you there's a, there's a shift or a tilt of our planet has shifted a bit. A very slow wobble is happening and ah Nancy Leader is talking about that a bit and it's been pretty much the effect has been in, in effect in our planet for a while. So uhm just watch these events as ah... uhm time progresses and uhm there'll be more information. The Celestials also sent me information a while back. Remember the, the vision that I had a while back ah concerning uhm looking at the, the soles of the bottom of peoples' shoes and everything was gray, frozen looking or gray colored?

Curtis : 2:10 Yes.

Michael : 2:10 And ah... a guy comes in and he has ah he's like a mounted uhm... soldier or you know commander... and can't believe what he's looking at... ah all like troops are just people just fallen dead... and ah... you know... he picks up at a statue... some kinda statue. Kinda reminded me of like a seated Buddha. Well anyway...

Curtis : 2:46 Mhm. Well well, we got, I just got a ah an email from Cortney. I should read this last but I'll... since you just mentioned that ah... He says ah... Hi Curtis, Michael, Sharoon and others. Thank you so very much. I learn much from hearing those conversations and reviewing them. Michael, please ask Sharoon what is the meaning or use of the symbol around his neck in Riley's book? Remember the, the, the elder in the purple robe and Riley had that symbol with the ankh on it and you had mentioned oh you don't remember, maybe Riley just drew that on there? Do you remember that Michael?

Michael : 3:37 Yeah. Uhm...

Curtis : 3:39 It's on the site. It's on...

Michael : 3:41 When I uhm yeah, when I have uhm, when I was with them they, they all were, wore purple robes or like gowns, purple gowns. And their hands were you know it's like long sleeves and they had their hands uhm covered like their hands together like uhm how would you say... one over the other and ah like ah you know those hand muff, what do you call... hand muffs? People would put their hands... not a glove but...

Curtis : 4:18 Yes. Yeah, you put'um in both sides?

Michael : 4:22 Yeah you put your hands in both sides... instead they were putting their hands in their sleeves.

Curtis : 4:27 hmm

Curtis : 10:32 Hmm.

Michael : 10:32 So everybody knows a star of David has six points... and ah it was the type of hologram representa... representing the holographic governance of the universe of sentient beings that we are moving into right now, absolutely right now. So... yeah...

Curtis : 10:57 Hmm.

Michael : 10:57 Well any, in any case getting back to some of the other concepts ah uhm... that were, were mentioned. What was that, ah what was there anything else in in the email? Umh...

Curtis : 10:41 Yes. Yes. He ah, he says ah... Michael your dream seems close to mine here in Santa Cruise. In my dream I came to the conclusion that it might be volcanic ash falling from the sky. So I looked at volcanoes to the east of our location. I found the Long Valley Cauldra. In my dream, I knew I was dreaming. I also felt directed to see again... and share... and share you later. Ah traffic was slow coming to a stop even with headlights on visibility was only a few feet ahead. I don't know what he means... I also felt directed to see again and share you later. I'm not sure what he means by that. ah And he ends with ah... You're all done so much to slow us down and help us see better. And he signs it... His Love Cortney.

Michael : 12:13 Yeah well Cortney the uhm... that dream vision really does put together some perhaps... ah... better interpretation of what was sent to me as many times happens in my visions. I don't understand what I'm seeing. I just have to relate them as I see them.

Michael : Ah yeah so it could very well be that... it was a volcanic eruption which ex you know the volcanic ash is gray and many times volcanic ash falls like snow. Not heavy volcanic ash it's a lighter type that sort of drifts down.

Curtis : 12:56 Dust.

Michael : Yeah. Like dust, light dust. But it could be combined with that actual snow which it could be a result of where the volcano was located. Because it would have, some moisture would have a time to freeze around some of the ash. You know and cause a snow fall too right?

Curtis : 13:16 Mhm.

Michael : 13:17 But the fallen people could also mean that it was like poison gas that could have come out of the volcano and killed them. You know. And that has been verified you know in so many different eruptions where poison gas... even when you look at some of the plagues of Egypt... the gas which was heavy lies closer to the ground. That's why you know these people were closer to the ground and then died and the guy on the horseback he was high above the gas level maybe and then he wasn't, he wasn't falling victim to this gas.

Curtis : 13:55 And so was the horse.

Michael : 13:57 Yeah and the horse is up higher yah. And so...

Curtis : 14:00 Yeah.

Michael : 14:00 So could, it could be that you know I'm not sure but that's all, that's all some things we have to think about and right now we're having a lot of volcanism around the world and they're on the increase also earthquakes ehh... which are related to volcanism. And uhm as I mentioned earlier that the wobble and tilting of our planet. And as of course uhm Nancy Leader is ah... with her ah... Zeta talk ah... has been very ah... vocal about ah... the planet Nibiru or Planet X moving into our Solar System. And ah... people are spotting different, different ah anomalies in the Sun, seeing some other uhm... ah different kinds of observa... observable phenomena like ah... you know another, what looks like could be another planetoid or even a second Sun reflecting in the back. All of these things point to... we're still looking toward some trouble ahead and ah we're not ah nearly ah into that position where you know uhm... the terrible absolute planet-wide catastrophe will happen. I think there's a gigantic ah move by the Celestials to continue in preserving our planet in its present ah... present level however, ah we're to change. They, they want to see us make a ah... ah change in the way we do things. A paradigm shift must happen and we're heading for that full paradigm shift soon which happens to be one in which how the civilization functions. And ah... it's something they, they know will take us a long time to come through but all we have to do in our planet is to make a change in our hearts and minds ah... to ah... to ah... change, to, to have a different value system. And I think I've been talking with so many people today... their value systems are changing extremely. I remember in the yuppie age which is my age ah... the young up-and-coming professional. It was always to climb the corporate ladder, get richer and get uhm... up there into you know... the six figure income and higher and higher. Well anyway ah, those who came through to that ended up burnt out... sick... full of stress... and never feeling good and/or happy. And now ah... there's a lot more where people ah... view the quality of life being much more important, happiness being much more important and uhm... many people having had a lot of you know ah... problems with the... the false security in materialism are making that change. And ah an entire generation is coming around that values happiness more than uhm... they don't link happiness and money in the same boat. They're very separate and very different. So this is one of the interesting things and that is one of things that ah the Celestials want us to, to find because this happiness and this uhm... ah... you might say blessedness comes from also tying ah ourselves much closer to ah... operating under the governance of the Divinity Fractal within us... the Thought Adjuster. So anyway... ah ah... that's a little bit of extra... in terms...

Michael : 19:07 It's... They, they were probably sleeping, yah, at the time and just died that way.

Curtis : 19:15 Yeah... maybe so. Maybe they were asleep. !t was just a, just such a sad, sad story.

Michael : 19:22 Yes... Well one of the things that comes to mind quickly with that story is how insidious that, their death was by this... uhm, you know probably it was ah carbon monoxide poisoning that, that is absolutely ah without warning you know people, you know, don't even know they're being poisoned and... a... yeah

Curtis : 19:50 That's something strange about that gas.

Michael : 19:52 Right. And another thing ah that goes back to that vision that I had is that it points out that it could be, what could happen could be very insidious and sneak up on people. Eh... so there... there, if we don't keep our wits about us and watch, watch carefully, the things that are going on and that's why I point out some of the things that are going on that are significant so... you know. A Spring, a Spring in Europe and all of that and cherry blossoms happening right now versus frozen what Las Vegas, California you know and eh... represents certain kind of things that are happening, so should keep our wits about us cause things could happen that would, you know, could ah very well sneak up on us if we just don't look at those things.

Curtis : 20:47 Last week before we ah signed or before we closed off our hour ah you were talking about cleaning our pineal gland and you had mentioned either on the air or off the air about you and your wife putting your hands on Marcy and I and ah... just getting you know... laying on hands for that ah healing ability and communicating ability and you said that Marcy was very strong and came out with lots of words and I hardly had any words but... Ted writes ah... he he picked on that. He wants to hear more about that pineal gland and so do I but anyway. He says, I listened to hour 170 again and I would definitely like some guidance from Michael and the Sharoons about how to tune the pineal gland. There is so much info on the web about tuning frequencies but nothing really concrete. So definitely let's ask for a step-by-step guide or maybe a reference source. (clears throat) There, there, Ted's interested and we are all interested in cleaning up our pineal gland and ah... and I had ah... another person write to me. I'm sorry. I'm just... going all over the place here. Ah... well asked me about the pineal gland. Oh yes, this is the second part of Keith's... question. He says, Michael mentioned that the pineal gland should be tuned-up or clean, or cleansed or some such. I read somewhere a while back that fluoride can collect there and to... and to that end I quit using it in toothpaste which is great. And he says, Tom's. That's a brand. Tom's makes a fluoride free one. Do the Celestials have any opinion on the efficacy of that approach? I guess they... I guess they'll tell ah-us others. Thanks. And that's ah from Keith. He asked another, another part of the question but maybe you can touch on a little bit of the pineal gland right now Michael?

Michael : 23:17 Well let me see ahh... I have ah pressure from Sharoon who would want to speak on that. Let me, let me come forward with ah... Let me explain something before I do something. One of the key... key points is that this... this language which I speak is... is actually secret. It is a... it is a language which is between myself and Divinity and the Divinity circuit. And it is understood on a level that requires attunement to the mind of God. You might say the mind of Christ or the... And it ah also is able it-it-it's able like you know we type in a website or dial a phone number uhm you can point it to an individual. Many times in prayer ah it is uhm... our... our prayers are are if they are properly presented eh... will be directed toward a guardian or ah a... yeah, a guardian, one guardian, a higher guardian who has under his guardianship many maybe sometimes hundreds of individuals but depending upon one's purpose uhm they may actually become uhm directed toward a singular guardian. Who has ah a combination. In my area I speak to many guardians and they all function under the same circuit and represent the First Source and Center. Let me for, go forward in this... Lackshunaraibesanaka ahelavawaterfortabesendeako ahfanstelkate theyaharunup sunfmarea threarupitagirlwhaisgonabelecialborogeten tarumpshun tararupshunata

Sharoon : 25:40 Greetings.

Curtis : 25:42 Hello Sharoon.

Sharoon : 25:43 Yes. I am here.

Curtis : 25:45 Hello Sharoon so good to talk with you again. I guess I can say Happy New Year.

Sharoon : 25:53 Ah yes. You do count the years.

Curtis : 25:56 (chuckles) Yes we count years as we go around. We've ah... we'd like to ask you about the pineal gland and ah... which... I'll just say our to our listeners it's ah it's close to the center of our head and our brain and it's right between our eyes and it's called the third eye and it's a very unique piece of our brain that we... we would love to hear what you have to say about it.

Michael : 47:20 Ok I'm back. (laughs) Alright anyway I just came back from his discussion quite considerably interesting.

Curtis : 47:32 Yes. What did he mean at the very end by a foolish gift?

Michael : 47:37 Uhm. Well I guess you know when people like like I was saying before I think ah when it comes down to a foolish gift would be ah... make me a millionaire or tell me what ah stock to buy... (laughs).

Curtis : 48:00 Mhm.

Michael : 48:00 That's a foolish gift of information. Although they can through time time ah shifting they can under-they can see but it's a foolish gift.

Curtis : 48:17 Hm.

Michael : 48:18 Yeah. There's more important things that need to be done especially understanding. Once that goes about, the world will make a paradigm shift. Well looking at what really is important, what makes people, what makes this planet ah truly on its way to becoming a a ah forever lasting planet where many, many, many, many beings of eternal not just eternal potential but eternal life will continue past this planet's birthplace into the rest of the Universe. There's so much more to to look into. So much more to express.

Curtis : 49:06 Yeah well it seems like we're always ah focused on the present moment.

Michael : 49:12 You know one of the things that's been upon my consciousness is ah you know. You know about ah genetically modified organisms right?

Curtis : 49:25 Well not much about them but I know what you mean.

Michael : 49:28 Well I I got familiar with that back in the 80s and ah... On the Island of Molokai which I live uhm there's a laboratory called Hawaiian Research which is now Monsanto. But Hawaiian Research ah was ah ah like the Silican Valley of the high it was like a high-tech place in the world of genetic modification and they'd they'd be able to ah use a type of uhm blast and blast genetic material and create these ah genetic monster material. You know but basically what they wanted to do was create strains of ah ah seed corn eh... primarily seed corn that was their strong point that was ah round up. You ever heard of the ah herbicide Roundup?

Curtis : 50:29 Yes.

Michael : 50:29 Yeah and use that and ah take the seed, plant it and then it would grow up and the plant would be ah impervious to Roundup. Every weed around it would die but the plant would grow.

Curtis : 50:45 Hm.

Michael : 50:46 Yeah. And uhm... ends up as uhm ah becoming a very, very bad part of our genetic research because they were combining materials into the the Geno ah that was ah gonna create many many ah disastrous effects. One of the disastrous effects ah was that if you eat some of this GMO materiel it creates a type of toxin, the very toxin uhm in some of ah... expressions that they they went to was creating a toxic plant. In other words... the plant would generate and it would be quarant, would generate ah a insecticide within it. The problem was with this insecticide it would ah... uhm find its way into the gut ah as you eat it. Of course you eat it and then the gene would find its expression into other parts of your own metabolism which would be the bacteria and ah even your own cells ah could express the generation of toxic uhm the insecticide that toxic material. And ah some of the syndromes that have come out about from it was one called... Leaky Gut Syndrome which the ah walls of the intestines become very, very thin and uhm and you have ah you know problems with ah not only digestion but ah-uhm...

Curtis : 52:46 Real problems.

Michael : 52:48 Real problems. I think you know someone who might have that problem.

Curtis : 52:51 Mhm.

Curtis : 57:18 Mhm

Michael : 57:18 For them to do business. So right now the United States is you know go for it. They can do whatever they want. Apparently, because the manufacturers have to submit uhm some kind of research which will be evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and the Food and Drug Administration will determine ah whether or not it's safe or not. And it's the very manufacturers of these types of ah dangerous items like high fructose corn syrup the genetically modified organisms. Uhm ah the researches will be done by the very manufacturers... saying that oh our product is safe. And what is happening to all the products that are very profitable will find their way, have found their way and there's a whole bunch more in line to to try to make it into our food supply. Because when it comes down to our basic profit, you know one of the things a merchant told me once and I said, how's the economy hitting you? and he says, I sell food. He was a grocer. He says, I sell food. Everybody has to eat. He never felt any, any change in you know ah his profitability and that's one of the most ah basic of all ah places to, to make a profit in and they, they want to get involved in that. Ah the paradigm shift of course will have to come from the fact that ah when consciousness shifts people will begin to make the shift and ah it will cause a profitability to go ah become you know threatened and of course the move will be ah ultimately moving away from a profit based monetary system, economic system to one based more on faith. Let me come to you again with the concept of faith based monetary systems. You wanna hear about that?

Curtis : 59:36 Well that was a question Ted asked.

Michael : 59:39 Oh okay.

Curtis : 59:40 I don't know if we have time for this but ah... He says, The pod cast was excellent as usual. Yes, mid-wayers are a type of troublesome person. As long as that keep their distance and do their job but more than that I would really like to hear Michael explain more about how the faith based financial system would actually work. He did give an example but I didn't quite see how the transaction flowed, the logic.

Michael : 1:00:11 A faith based system would find its way first of all in changing the motive. The motive would be, instead of profit would be alignment with the universal consciousness. It requires those that are in control to make conscious decisions in alignment with the Divinity Fractal with the Thought Adjuster ah which is the highest level of governance. In other words, ah there will be no need for laws as long as everyone would listen to that governance. But what has happened is in this economic system which is profit based ah it has become perverted through an absolute plugging up of people's listening to their Divinity and ah moving on only with profit in their mind and that's where I said people are making that shift already and a ah whole generation is coming up realizing that. It's really happiness that is more important ah you know...

Curtis : 1:01:32 Oh yes happiness is more important.

Michael : 1:01:37 And the sources of course of that happiness become more and more apparent and that will make ah that faith based system. But faith requires action and ah it also requires a living faith in God or living faith in the Divinity within you and ah all of that takes stages but once it ah takes place one will receive a entirely new perspective on life and civilization and and how civilization can find its way towards great and wonderful expressions that will last forever.

Curtis : 1:02:25 Wow. Thank you, Michael. That was beautiful. Ah do you know probably a lot of your listeners are ah really content with their lives because they've really figured out what's important and that is just to be happy and healthy and not have to ah think you have to do better than the Jones' in a way, whoever the Jones' are. You know what I mean.

Michael : 1:02:54 Right. It's not to say that those things will be denied us. For me, ah they've all come to past you know. It's like I've needed all those toys and all of that I have them all. But uhm I didn't really you know when I got them... it was when I didn't really care for them anymore. It's sort of strange how they came about.

Curtis : 1:03:19 (laughs) Yeah, I know what you mean.

Michael : 1:03:23 Yeah.

Curtis : 1:03:23 You think you need something and then when it finally, when you finally do get it...

Michael : 1:03:29 (laughs)

Curtis : 1:03:29 Ah what's the big deal.

Michael : 1:03:32 Oh it's a big deal. Anyway it a... there is so much more that God will express to an individual... just make the first step and listen and even that physical description that the Sharoon was talking about. About how they will... the move is one that... starts from the head and moves through the body. And you feel it. Feel the tingling... yeah.

Curtis : 1:04:04 Yeah... living life... that's what is important. I hope ah... this didn't break up too much... it sounded... your voice broke up a little bit. I think we all heard you. So wow before ths completely stops... ah... we'll talk with you next week Michael. Thank you very much... and ah... Aloha.

Michael : 1:04:32 Okay... Aloha.

Curtis : 1:04:33 Aloha... bye.

Michael : 1:04:35 Bye.