Michael from Maui
2 October 2012
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Curtis : 00:00 Well Michael and I would like to welcome you back to another recording of Saturn Earth Connection. Our web site is... helloearth.info... and today is October the second 2012 and this is hour 162 with Michael from Maui Hawaii. Michael was taken to a huge luminescent sphere near Saturn as a student visitor and returned to Maui with their flowing dialog... hello Michael.
Michael : 00:30 Hello Curtis... how do you hear me?
Curtis : 00:34 I hear you really well. And ah... we had trouble last week with... with getting going... cause my... ah... DSL line and ah... it just wasn't working very well and... last Monday... I had high speed installed with a cable. So our upload speed went up by seven times. And our download speed doubled. Which is great news for us. And hopefully this we won't have any trouble with our recording any more... or very limited trouble I hope. But news around here our hummingbirds have gone until next year... and they... it seems like the same ones come back to the same feeders... cause... they come back about the first of May... and if I don't have the feeders out there... they'll come right up to where the feeders is... and they'll like... look all around. Well... where is it? It was here last year.
Michael : 01:37 chuckles
Curtis : 01:37 So they're cute as can be. And then big our birds... the swans... they have been... teaching their babies how to fly... and that's really cute. I've been trying to catch it with a video camera... which is really hard cause... I just wish they could tell me when their ready... I'd get ready. But... it is a sight to see. And when I go down to feed them... Mr. Hughes the male he... he always thanks me when I go down there. Oh thank you... snort sounds... he puts his head up and makes his... his ah... clears his throat sort of... oh thank you thank you thank you. But it is nice getting back with you again Michael... hello.
Michael : 02:22 Hello there.
Curtis : 02:23 Hello. So ah... I had this ah... I went down to Patty Blackwell's... she has groups at her house... and my friend Dr. Ong... he has been going up to see this man named... Thom Angels. He spells it... Thom... Angels dot com... and he has gone up gone up to the Adirondack to see him... and I mean... Ruben is a surgeon. Although he just retired from doing major surgery... because of... the price... well he is getting older and the price of ah... insurance... he calls himself... a recovering surgeon. And ah... anyway he's taken pictures of this Thom Angels. And Thom Angels had this shirt that was given to him by the celestials. And it is... I touched it on Sunday... several times. And it's like... touching the artifacts of ah... Roswell... you know some real alien technology. And you have to recognize it when you see it. You know this is really what it is. And he said he feels great when he has it on. And... he said he was somewhere is some television... or not... some ah... airport I think he said. He said a man came up and offered him two thousand dollars for the shirt. He goes... I can't do that... it's the only one I have. But you can go to his web site and read his story. He was a business man in Florida. And he had some kind of sore toe or something. And he went into ah... maybe lunch hour or whatever... went to see a doctor. I can't remember what was wrong with his toe. But the doctor anesthetized his toe and then heard some kind of scream or something in another room and said I'll be right back. And when he came back the anesthesia had gone up his leg and gone to his heart and stopped his heart and he died. Like I said to Marcy last night about Thom Angels... we've had a lot of our friends... like pass away and things and ... none of them died and came back. So it's... I guess it is like being hit by lightning. Doesn't happen too often. But... the way he told his story was quite amazing. And ah... I'll be able to see him in another... later on this month. He is coming back down here. But he kind of... frightened me a bit about ah... not a bit... I was... I just wasn't myself for a day or so... I just sort of came back today. But about 2012... the end of the year. So ah... and when we talked about it the other week... a few weeks ago... that was... that just blew me away... cause... here I live on a river... a very active river. Last year we had to move off the property three times. And... I mean we're having a gentle rain today. And it seems like... HAARP isn't... giving us a problem anymore. At least not in our area. And ah... because sometimes you can't even see Pennsylvania it's raining so hard but... so I feel I have to do something on... this December 21st. Be somewhere else. And then Michael you said... oh well... just go up in the hills... and come back and after you pick up the pieces... and pick-up the pieces.
Michael : 06:33 Yeah something like that.
Curtis : 06:35 Something like that.
Michael : 06:37 I just realize... ah... that it is an event.
Curtis : 06:46 What does the Sharoon say about... this event? And how we're going to be a... I mean what's going to happen? Or what is happening?
Michael is not talking yet
Michael : 07:00 Ah... the Sharoon... ah... lets see what they say... yahshaksonamirhaonasonshonacton genesahaspenima yandasha yasada egondararea.
Sharoon : 07:25 This is Ahiden Sharoon
Curtis : 07:29 Hello Sharoon... it's wonderful to speak with you again.
Sharoon : 07:36 Yes
Curtis : 07:39 And I...
Sharoon : 07:39 What would you desire to know?
Curtis : 07:43 Well... the first... the first thing... I just seem to always want to ask you... are you... right now out near Saturn?
Sharoon : 07:56 Yes
Curtis : 08:00 Can you see Saturn where you're sitting?
Sharoon : 08:05 No
Curtis : 08:07 Either can I. It's daytime here... and... I'm here on Earth. ... I wanted to ask you about... the end of this year... 2012. I ah... heard what Michael had to say... a few weeks ago. And... because I live on this river... I'm a... jittery as it is anyway... being flooded ah... and had to move off the property 3 times last year I was just extremely disrupted. And can't seem to live a normal... life. ah... And then I met this Thom Angels... last Sunday for the first time. I've heard about him and seen pictures. And my friend Dr. Ong has been... visiting him... and talking with him. And he is a special person... he had his shirt on that was given to him by celestials. And it certainly was material that I have never seen... on this planet. So ah... you know you put together these pieces and you listen to what someone says. But he said some very frightening things as far as what's going to be occurring here on the east coast of the United States. And it sounds like around the whole planet. Could you please... tell our... tell us more of what... is happening... and what will happen toward the end of this year. And when will it happen... and what will happen?
Sharoon : 10:11 The exact day in which it will happen... I believe you have in your mind a concept of great calamities. A struggle between... a forces that are electromagnetic and gravitational... that places great stress... on... planetary and environmental structure... tectonic movements. Understand... that you should have been aware... that... strange weather... numerous volcanic eruptions... earthquakes... and the resulting calamities that may follow. Have happened and are already warnings that you should have taken note of. Because you have taken note of them... understand this. That when the exact time comes forth... you will be able to see... the signs for yourself. You'll be able to find a place... for a short duration. Or... you will be found by us... and removed. The level of the calamity is variable. We have in the past manipulated... by our abilities... the interaction... that can happen. If we desire that no life... should come from this planet anymore... that it should be a great extinction... we would have desired to place... the forces... at a position that would have impacted the planet. If we desire... that certain adjustment... and change... we would adjust its in a way... that will get your attention. I say you... not... just speaking to you Curtis... but to... the planetary consciousness. You see... although you look at us as celestials beings... and your question... about where I am located was important to you... you must also realize... that we are beings... similar to you. We have abilities that perhaps are many many times more perfected... others that are more powerful... others that are very different. Yet the primary part of you... that is so precious... is the development of your soul. You're individual souls planetary souls. For that is the part that is most precious to us. For that part... it is for us easy... to create the physical body. But it is difficult to place a personality... of unique... and true divine structure within it. That part... that part... is the most important. Presently... your planet is in struggle. And it has been in struggle because... of the way things have been done. The balance is important in order that it will function but that was lost... and will not be found again. Instead a paraign must come forth... where your understanding of that... will become truly... accepting of a new way. We will not tell you what to do. But we want you to wake-up... and understand truly this new way. You see... if the planet goes through this juncture and does not awaken... you would not be ready to receive the wisdom that we have for you. The many many many... teachers are waiting for your readiness. To receive this wisdom. And once you're ready... a great and wonderful age is stretching out before you. During this time... it is a time you need... to look at what is important. Is it important that you save the fabric of your physical life? The pieces that make your life comfortable... or to understand... that a way... is just... on the other side... awaiting your acceptance... a new way... a new way. A new way of being... a new way of doing. You understand what I am saying?
Curtis : 18:40 Yes... very clearly... I understand exactly what you're saying. It sounds... it sounds... it sounds like heaven. It sounds like a new... beautiful... new way of life.
Sharoon : 19:00 Yes... you must understand this new way of life... is not really new in all of it's structure. All of the things that you have developed over this time... over this period... of a thousands of years in the past... have set forth this point of decision. And what we have seen is that your lessons have been learned deeply. You have not taken another step... your planet your governments in setting off another nuclear weapon. And setting off another nuclear war. Yes there were mistakes. Yes there were times in which you did come close... and we did intervene. But... the point of destroying each other has been tested. Therefore why should we allow a planet to be destroyed. We've done it in the past. When none came forth as you. For we waited for a uniqueness to be brought forth on this planet. Urantia is a wonderful planet. Has many phases of intriguing and beautiful life. Systems of life that were unique since systems of life that evolved into what you have today. But you will find on the other side of this... that many things... that you consider... unimportant... will become important. And many things which you presume... to be necessary for life... will become unnecessary. Yes you spoke of a... a shirt that ah... is... here or... given to your... ah... individual. This is only a token... pointing toward a new revelation. And you have but to do as that shirt is. Put it on... wear it. In it you will be enveloped... embraced by the higher wisdom. Not that the shirt contains it... but that your acceptance of it is more important. Therefore yes there will be change. There will be times in which will be trying toward many... and many shall perish... but their souls shall be translated. For you... you have the ability to move. You have also the understanding of what is ahead. And it shall be a time of trouble... yes. And yet we shall remove many who shall be removed in your biologic form... your mortal form. Because we need you to return. You shall return... not mortal... but that first stage morontal. You know what that is... I will tell you. In the holy Bible... we have already placed understanding of the Morontia plane. Servants shall be sent forth... such as flames of fire. Understand that you can look that up in the Bible. Servants shall be sent forth... as flames of fire... the first Morontia change. Understand the Morontia Tree is a symbol. Even that which was placed... ten giving of the Ten Commandments of Mount Sinai. It had Monortia Flame... but was perceived as a bush that burned... and was not consumed. This is the end point of being removed from the planet. It is also a time when the announcement comes... it shall take place. When is the right time... when is the exact date... should it be around... well yes... you will know the time. You will know approximately the time. When a... when a... person or a fisherman knows the tide and the currents and knows the migratory routes... he will base himself in position... to become successful in catching a fish. During this period of catching a fish... the exact time when the fish will bite is not known to him. But the closeness to it is. This is his skill. We have sent you signs to allow you to become more and more serious about what is being said... all about the planet. And what is most important... again... is it your physical body... or your structured soul... that will now perish. But needs to be aligned toward... paradise gravity. Recognize as a light... by us... visible in another realm of vision. You see when we look at a person we see much more then you can see with your own vision. But if you are aligned correctly it is easy to see. Now... do you understand what I am saying?
Curtis : 27:34 Yes I do. I just wanted to ask you about... if I was aligned correctly. Could you explain that a little bit differently. What you mean by aligned.
Sharoon : 27:55 You must understand that the structure of civilization that is on the planet presently. If you are aligned correctly... your contributions into it would not be one in which would enrich yourself. But your concern would not be enriching yourself... but others. And your heart felt home... would not be this planet... Urantia that you live upon... but the greater Universe that you are a part of. This gravity... empowers your ability empowers you. You would call it love... but it is the way the Universe really is powered by... from first source and center. You understand?
Curtis : 29:14 Yes I do Sharoon. Thank you for explaining it further. ... I mean I've always lived this physical life that I am in. I don't... I can imagine another life but I can't envision... or maybe I can envision but whether the vision is correct... that... that is something that needs to be... ah... taught. But I do love this planet. It's a beautiful planet and I... have seen and I've been aligned with... understanding and seeing the terrible things that some humans insist on doing to this planet. It's not all of us that want that direction. But it seems this a... seems that they have the power to keep going in the direction they're going. Cutting off our oxygen supply... and polluting our air with unnecessary particles that we have to breath. Because we're all breathers. So did you say that I... will... die during this time and... I will ah... return?
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Michael is at his work area... you hear other people in the background.
Sharoon : 31:03 That is not for me to say. I am not your guardian... of destiny. Your guardian will draw near to you as the time gets closer. There will be no special insights that will be necessary. Only pull... a pressure... a push... maybe a tug. And when the time comes forth... a change. You see... even if you're pulled forth as a mortal of biologic origin... you can not retain that. It will not be possible. It would only allow you to live... and put off the enviable. The difference is... if it become necessary that we create the lift... the grand lift... the harvest... it will be one in which... is so wonderful. When you are touched by it... the light will proceed... from us into you... and you will not know it. Only that it is wonderful. Only that it is so wonderful. There will be no terror... no fear. There is terror and fear if I were to come... and you were to see... me in my present form... as well as the many others who have their different forms. You will think... we are being attacked. You would think... how terrible it is. Instead... we will understand the lift... who work with it all the time. Know the transition is one of great love. If you have fear... if you reject that love... it is because paradise gravity has not harmonize in your soul. Because the substance is the same... that will touch and pull you. But if it is rejected. You see... if you choose the manner of the working of your planetary methoder. You are not... be lifted... because you will be too heavy... spiritually heavy. And you would almost be glued to the planet. This is a simple way of saying it. Be detached. Why worry. The time will be seen... and you would be told. Not even we know exactly the time. We just know it is near... as you should too. Is there any other thing you would desire to know?
Curtis : 36:05 Well... you speak about the lift... the harvest... the harvest of the precious souls on this planet and there are people listening to you on this recording. I'm going to be asking... asking you about the people who are listening. Will they be also included in this lift? Will they be taken in the physical... or will their souls be harvested?
Sharoon : 36:50 The soul harvest is the primary method... of removing the planet... of its... wonder and beauty which are you who live upon it. They shall be a remnant. The solar blasts that will hit will be one form of trouble. The Earth itself will be another... the weather another... the climate another. There will be many troubles that will occur simultaneously. If you need to hide from a solar blast... you take cover under dense material. A building... a parking structure. But if there is a great earthquake... that would be a poor choice. It may collapse on you. You see it depends on your personal situation. Therefore I will say you will be told... what to do. Don't think yourself alone. You will have if not a personal guardian... a group guardian. One who puts you together with others... and they would know what to do. Because the group guardian has been given... what to do in the locality in which you are. Do you understand?
Curtis : 39:16 Yes I do.
Sharoon : 39:18 Okay. I can not tell you exactly what to do. Because it depends. It depends where the Earth is in relation to its... struggle. Whether it be a solar blast... a tectonic shift... great earthquakes... and or tsunamis. If you survive and earthquake and sit in a low lying area close to the ocean... doesn't make any sense. Does it?
Curtis : 39:58 Well my present location... I'm just ninety-one feet above sea level.
Sharoon : 40:07 Ninety-one feet has been accomplished already... in Japan. Do you know that a river carves its way... becoming the low point... high seeking low. Eventually creating the lowest point in a area. Will the rivers turned the other way? Will they flow up hill. Do you need to understand anymore? You can see it on your own technologies... your own recordings. These are the warnings that have come forth.
Curtis : 41:15 Yes I can see the warnings. And I've... I understand the river could flow the other way. Our part of the Earth where I am located really doesn't have earthquakes. Like when I lived in Hawaii or the west coast I felt a lot of earthquakes. But this... this is going to happen at the end of the year. And it sounds like I should move to higher ground. Don't you think that's a good idea?
Sharoon : 42:02 I would survey... I would survey your options. As I said... it may not be a tsunamis... as your river turning the other direction. It could be a tremendous fiery burst. Or it could be... a terrible storm. These things will not come upon you... and surprise you... if you will harmonize with paradise gravity. You will be given enough warning. You would see what it will be... then you would know. This I say because... your situation is not the same as others. But... remember that there are many who have been assigned guardians who function actively... for the good of those they serve. Which are individuals just like yourself.
Curtis : 44:23 Well many times I am by myself... and my... my guardian could contact me... and... present himself I won't be afraid. Would that... could that happen? Could he present himself to me?
Sharoon : 44:50 Let me show you the first ways that are allowed. An enlightened individual human being... will slip a few words to you. That in their understanding can be shared. When the word there said... you receive them... but they strike you in your heart... like you have been... electrocuted. They're strong words. They come from a human source. That which was spoken... was not known by the source. As of any consequence or any importance. But the divinity that is in you will brace these words as a warning. Then you know you have been warned. This is one of the first ways. Another way we use... is to impart to you... a pressure... a push... onward... forward... to a place... look... look... look. And as you are looking... we will direct you... to the place... or to what to do. Another way if you are harmonized and aligned... you will be given a dream. And another way... you would see a dream as you are awake... a vision. And a final you would be given a face-to-face encounter with your celestial guardian. But most will find the first way... enough. Do you understand?
Curtis : 47:23 Yes I do. Thank you for explaining it so clearly. So... I may even have a face-to-face encounter.
Sharoon : 47:35 It is the last and highest way. But it is one in which is given only in extreme circumstance.
Curtis : 47:54 So only in an extreme circumstance... if I don't come to my senses... is that what you mean Sharoon?
Sharoon : 48:06 Yes.
Curtis : 48:09 I thought so. Well I certainly have seen a lot of signs of what's going to happen. And... most people just think it is going to happen in another dimension and it won't even happen in our dimension. But this is happening in our dimension... isn't that correct?